Dado blades

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Yes you are very right Geoffrey.

Joking aside the EN and IEC standards are very good things. Designed with the users interests in mind.  I have no doubt that without them many people would be exposed to unnessessary risks. In particular a dodo blade would cause a terrible injury in the event of an accident. Far more so than a normal blade.

Also what Geoffrey said about America and litigation is so very true.

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Work TS1013 dado insert with table saw GTS 10 J profesional?

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Could I add that in theory there is nothing wrong with dado blades if used correctly, and that's where the problem is.  Fitting a dado blade means you then need to design and fit a guard system that provides the correct level of protection which works with the workpiece(s) you are machining, and the vast majority of people, especially for a one-off or very short job don't. They then sometimes suffer pretty horrendous injuries with so much tissue removed you do not get to sew bits back on, yoiu get get the ends tidied up. Thinking or saying 'I'll be careful, I know what I'm doing etc etc' does not always work, it takes just one distraction, one moment of not thinking and its the end of a finger or worse. I've seen it many times, I've had to interview many people and you would be amazed how many 'were being careful'

For people suing machines at home for a hobby it can seem overbearing and wrong to control in some way what people can or cannot do BUT if you have that type of accident and injury at home it is all down to you and you are pretty much unlikely to have any abilty to gain any form of financial help from the multitude of 'no win no fee' solicitors out there. At least at work if you are expected to use dangerous machinery (wrongly!) you may at least have some financial compensation to help put your life back to near normality.

Sorry this all sounds like a lecture but if experience is a help to stop people being savaged then I hope this does help.

Geoffrey

Just an example of how easy it is - Guy working in a shop with a semi-automatic cross-cut saw. He notices a piece of timber off-cut under the machine table so reaches under to pick it up. At that moment the saw cycled across the machine bed and because someone had removed the lower (under the table) guard to make cleaning easier (!) he lost all four fingers and part of his thumb. He was lucky as they found the bits and they mostly worked eventually after surgery. I got to interview him, I also got to prosecute the company but I think he would have preferred to not have the experience.  Have fun with your saws :-)
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Hi you can actually use dado blades in the uk as long as it is personal use i.e workshop at home not a buisness there is a place called woodford woodwork machinery sells table saws called xcaliber and they come with dado sets.
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The law only applies to buisnesses, trades and training establishments not the hobbyist.
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Geoffrey is perfectly right saying that its not enough to just say you'll be careful, you do actually have to be careful. ie using push sticks and keeping your fingers well away from spinning blades. I've seen my grandads fingers chopped about a bit and its always because he was complacent and not because of the blade being exposed. I disagree that the option to fit a dado blade to our machines is taken away from us just because a few people dont respect the blade.

From a business point of view, protecting your employees is extremely important and that's why education and training and better tool safety features are needed not prohibition of equipment. You can chop your fingers off in loads of different ways but you dont see HSE banning everything that can maim or kill you. Take your example with the chap losing his fingers in a crosscut machine. You have to ask yourself what type of person tries to clean out a powered up semi automatic machine with their fingers. Surely a little bit of imagination is enough to switch it off first.
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Yes, they will..!!
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